Carl Edwards says “what problems” to new car critics

By Charlie Turner, Thunder Lounge
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Forty two Sprint Cup drivers hated NASCAR’s experiment in stock car design after the Samsung 500 Sunday at Texas Motor Speedway.

Jeff Gordon actually parked his car early - after an inevitable spin and wall wack - and insisted that crew chief Steve Letarte “fix the dang thing”. Gordon later returned to the track to taste the results of Letarte’s efforts. The leftovers weren’t much better and after a few more laps Gordon called it a day. Jeff said that they tried every possible set-up. Nothing works for the team. That is not a good sign.

Gordon’s teammate Jimmy Johnson finished second and led sixty-some laps. All-in-all that is a big improvement from recent results, but Johnson says the new car needs help. You can’t drive it in traffic, it needs more down-force. And this is a team that has tested the new car nearly every non-race day for the last two weeks. Hell, Chad - can I hear a hallelujah - Knauss is the crew chief! If they can’t figure it out ……?

Maybe Joe Gibbs Racing can. Not according to third place finisher Kyle Busch who said;

“Was it fun to drive? No. Was it hard to drive? Yes,” Busch said. “Did it survive the day? Yes. So was it a good day? Sure.”

Kyle was asked to talk further about the car and said:

“I’m not going to answer that question. Ask NASCAR that question.”

Ryan Newman finished fourth, but flunked the post-race rectal and will undoubtedly lose points, cash and crew chief attendance for a while. Presumably because they exceeded legality in the effort to fix the problems with the car. So much for the cheating solution.

The race winner was Carl “flipper” Edwards - for the third time this year. Carl doesn’t see the problem. At all. It isn’t so much that Edwards thinks that his new cars handle any better than his competitor’s rides. He just thinks the way that they are is OK. The same for everybody, a challenge to drive for sure but rewarding to master. He likes it.

NASCAR says they have no intention of making big - or even small - changes to the former CoT. That fact may make Carl Edwards the eventual champion of the first Sprint CoT Cup Series.

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Filed Under: Carl Edwards, Charlie Turner, Guest Authors, Jeff Gordon, Jimmie Johnson, Kyle Busch, Sprint Cup, Texas

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By Luke, Thunder Lounge
Monday March 3, 2008
12:52am CST
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Well, it was almost like deja vu as Carl Edwards led the last lap for the second week in a row.

After much impending anticipation, the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series made it to Las Vegas. After the fiasco in Fontana last week, it was definitely a welcomed weekend where weather wasn’t an issue, and the racing was anticipated to be really good.

It wasn’t bad, however as a colleague pointed out, I was left with a slight empty feeling. To me it felt like the guys we’re leaving something on the table, for lack of a better term. I reflect back to comments about the tires, a lack of overall grip, and the term cautiously aggressive comes to mind.

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Filed Under: Carl Edwards, Drivers, Hendrick Motorsports #24, Jeff Gordon, Joe Gibbs Racing #20, Las Vegas, Nascar, Roush Racing #99, Sprint Cup, Teams, Tony Stewart, Tracks

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By Luke, Thunder Lounge
Friday February 15, 2008
10:21am CST
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Jeff Gordon

• 2007 Stats

  • Organization: Hendrick Motorsports
  • Car Number: 24
  • Crew Chief: Steve Letarte
  • Sponsor: DuPont
  • Points: 2nd :: 6646 :: -77
  • Starts: 36
  • Poles: 7
  • Wins: 6
  • Top 5’s: 21
  • Top 10’s: 30
  • Winnings: $7,148,620

• 2008 Preview

  • Organization: Hendrick Motorsports
  • Car Number: 24
  • Crew Chief: Steve Letarte
  • Sponsor: DuPont

What a difference a year makes? No. What a difference a wife, and a life, makes. That’s just how things work in the world of Jeff Gordon. When his personal life is stable and happy, it shows on the track. He tears is up. His marriage in 2006 to super-model Ingrid Vandebosch solidified his private life. It also solidified his on-track performance. When Jeff and Ingrid welcomed in Ella Sofia, it made him even more of a threat on the track.

Scoring the most points in 2007, he was on the typical “get outta my way” roll that has made him famous. He lead the Series in Poles (7), Top-5’s (21), and Top-10’s (30). It was a season the woke up the competition, and reminded them that he was still there. Only one goal wasn’t completed in 2007, and that was the continuing “Drive for 5″ campaign. If 2007 was any indication, he may just be warming up.

Looking ahead to 2008, Gordon has to be one of the favorites for the Title. Fans will tell you he should be looking for his 7th title but this isn’t Winston Cup, as much as many long time fans wish it were. However, all things aside, with the momentum coming from 2007 the 2008 season thus far in Speedweeks looks to keep on rolling without a bump. With a 3rd in his Duel race, and a 4th in the Bud Shootout, the consistency continues.

Note: information is accurate as of date published. Check Thunder Lounge for additional updates and information.

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By Luke, Thunder Lounge
Wednesday February 13, 2008
3:35pm CST
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Motors, they are a changin’.

Or was that “times”? Well, that wasn’t the case in Daytona this afternoon.

It would seem that teams running Hendrick engines, at least 6 (includes Nemecheck and Riggs), would be changing engines before the Duel’s tomorrow afternoon.

But wait, we’re not stopping there. Toyota is also have problems with their engines. In fact, the exact same problem. To the extent that TRD is sending new engines straight from California, post haste.

The problem, for you engine techs out there, is that the coating on the cam shaft is coming off, getting on the lifters and filtering through the engine.

Clint Bowyer is also changing an engine today, but it was unrelated to the above problem according to SPEED.

What this means is that the teams who have changed engines prior to their Duel will have to start at the back of their assigned heat. Once the Duel’s have run, all teams may freely make an engine change without penalty.

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Filed Under: Casey Mears, Clint Bowyer, Dale Earnhardt Junior, Daytona, Drivers, Furniture Row Racing #78, Haas CNC Racing #66, Hendrick Motorsports #24, Hendrick Motorsports #25, Hendrick Motorsports #48, Hendrick Motorsports #5, Hendrick Motorsports #88, Jeff Gordon, Jimmie Johnson, Joe Nemechek, Nascar, Scott Riggs, Sprint Cup, Teams, Tracks





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By Luke, Thunder Lounge
Tuesday November 6, 2007
11:39pm CST
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This should be saved for tomorrow’s WTF, but I couldn’t help it.

So, before we get out of recovery mode from the Texas Sized Thunder at Thunder Lounge this past weekend, I’ll leave you with a simple statement.

“It’s no wonder Kentucky can’t get a race date. Their media can’t even get their NASCAR coverage right, nor do they have a clue.”

In this article, the fish-wrap generator of “Eastern Kentucky” loses all credibility with a simple line. While most of the article is pimping on Bruton Smith and his purchase of New Hampshire, they had to get their own spin on the title hunt in. That’s what killed it.

“Johnson or Gordon have never won at Phoenix but both have had some success as Johnson has a couple of runner-up finishes including last November and Gordon has a trio of third place finishes.”

Notice anything strange there? I do. Hell, if you can’t even keep up with something that happened this season, what good are you? Well, you’re not. To add to that, you’re obviously not even doing your homework when out of your league.

For the record, and we’ll get to it when we get back on track tomorrow, the event at Texas went off like hot cakes off the griddle. One hell of a show, as always.

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By Luke, Thunder Lounge
Wednesday October 3, 2007
3:41pm CDT
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Welcome to the first edition of WTF? Wednesday™.

A brief synopsis: Every Wednesday, we’re going to go the extra mile (and possibly throw “the flag”) to ask the all inevitable question that is lurking on everyone’s mind. WTF? If it’s smelling funny, and has to do with NASCAR, we’re going to ask it.

On to this weeks column.

Kyle Bush and his manifold of gold

As you may or may not have heard, NASCAR failed the #5 of Kyle Bush after he swept through (again) to Victory Lane in the Busch Race at Kansas.

They “deemed” his intake manifold to be “illegal”. Yet, here it is Wednesday already and there hasn’t been a word about it since Sunday. WTF?

Hendrick says it’s legit, and that it’s no different than other times. In fact, they even sent one into NASCAR and they inspected it for 2 days earlier last week.

So, what’s “good to go” this week may be “illegal” the next? WTF?

Late this afternoon, NASCAR announced a “fine” of $10,000 for Mike Bumgarner, the crew chief for Kyle Bush in the Busch Nationwide Series for violations found post-race at Kansas.

Bruton Smith “may” build a new “Charlotte”

Bruton wants a drag racing venue at his current location in the capital of NASCAR. Cool, he’s done it at Bristol and Texas to name a few. He gets the required zoning, and begins.

All of a sudden, the City Council (we’re talking Concord, not “technically Charlotte”) decided the other night to overturn the zoning for the area, leaving Mr. Smith in the middle of a project which (currently) can’t be used. WTF?

Supposedly the “City Council” wanted to pull the reins on all the “noise” in the area, as it’s building up around the track in terms of both business and residential neighbors. OK, whatever.

So, Bruton laid out the terms for all to see. If that’s the way it’s going to be, and “noise” is such a concern, I want my tracks together. If I need to relocate my venues to another part of town, I will.

Huh?

Mr. Bruton Smith went on to compare it to a stick/ball team building a new arena in town. It’s still there, just in a different location. This isn’t a ploy or a threat. It’s the facts. If he has to move it to another area of town, he will. He’s already scouting land around the Charlotte area, and I’d bet there’s a few communities welcoming the move with open arms.

So you’ll hear about Charlotte closing, but really it’s just moving to another side of town.

The question is, what would the track be like? Would it mirror the current configuration? Let’s hope not.

Bruton Smith has a few things at his disposal now. He’s got raw data from various sources, and I’d be willing to bet that if indeed a deal can’t be reached, and he does build a new facility, that it will be the best one on the circuit. He knows what is working, and where the future is headed. Expect the facilities to be top notch, and something viable for not only today, but for decades to come.

What about the track itself? Would it be the same thing, or could it be something unique? Here’s a chance to shine. Do something that hasn’t/isn’t being done. Make that track even more special than it already is. 1.5 miles in length? Nah. 2 miles? Maybe, but Michigan and Cali-bore-nia already do it. 1 mile? Dover, New Hampshire. 1.75 miles? 1.25 miles? Hmmm, 600 miles is divisible evenly at 1.25 miles, 1.75 is a tick off, but almost another full lap.

With all the data available, the chance to truly make a “Beast of the Southeast” exists. The fans would dig it (who wants another cookie?), the drivers would dig it, and most of all it would be something different.

We’ll see what happens on that front, but for now in terms of this “out of nowhere” deal, WTF?

Kansas

We aren’t in Kansas anymore, but thoughts sure haven’t left there.

Why was a race that had not a chance of ending before darkness resumed? WTF?

OK, if I had paid to be there, I’d want as much show as possible.

“Technically”, if all the remaining laps went green it could have made the distance. NASCAR isn’t that dumb, so they said we’re going to 225. WTF?

The thing is, when has there been an opportunity to restart a race at all? It would either:
a) go way into the night
b) not enough daylight left, and no lights available
c) wasn’t enough left for it to be worth it.

Kansas was what, 12 or so laps past halfway? NASCAR made the call to continue with as much of a show as possible, which was a good call for fans, just maybe not for your driver. Then again, maybe your driver came out better than if it had been stopped? Then again, the one who would have benefited most from not resuming, ended up with the bonehead move of the race. “Hey Smoke, there’s smoke coming out of your tire.” But, I digress.

Then you have the finish. Biffle cut the motor off coming out of 4 on the final lap, to make sure he had enough fuel to do a burn out. He had half a gallon left, by the way, but NASCAR made him walk over to Victory Lane. WTF? Why couldn’t the guy do a burnout? WTF?

“Da rules” state a reasonable speed, and NASCAR said it was. Some of the competitors didn’t think it was, so they passed under yellow. NASCAR said the field was frozen, so that was that. OK, but also if you pass under yellow, don’t you get a penalty? So if that’s true, and Biffle wasn’t maintaining a reasonable speed (almost half the pace car speed as he crossed the line), then wouldn’t Casey Mears have won with Jeff Gordon finishing second? But, the field was frozen and Biffle maintained a reasonable speed. WTF?

Not even the mighty scoring loops of NASCAR got it right. It had Bowyer listed at 1st, followed by Johnson. Talk about a Charlie Foxtrot drill. Anyone want to wager about a slight modification to the wording in “Da Rules” about this for next season? If there isn’t, we have our last WTF?

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By Marc, Thunder Lounge
Thursday September 6, 2007
2:48pm CDT
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To borrow, and butcher someone else’s phrase; You can satisfy some of the people some of the time, but you can’t satisfy all of the people all of the time.

What brought me to this not so startling conclusion is a couple days looking at NASCAR headlines and stories as we head into NASCAR final “regular season” event at Richmond.

Here is one example that is fairly accurate and representative of various sources that all play on the same theme, the new Chase with 12 teams admitted to the party has “ruined” Richmond.

“Chase playoff rules strip drama from race.” The gist of this article is based on a hypothetical:

“Had the series headed to race No. 26 at Richmond under the original Chase rules, four drivers separated by 38 points would go into this weekend’s Chevy Rock and Roll 400 battling for the last two spots.”

This is where I insert, “yeah but,” the Beloved One would be 161 points behind and not hanging by the thread of 128 points as he is now.

Put another way, a virtual certainty vice as least a thread of hope. And here’s another “but,” that offers a bit of drama, Junior has won three times at Richmond, including his last Cup win in May 2006.

It’s also appropriate to highlight the words of Tony Stewart at this point:

“It’s nice coming here [Richmond] and knowing that if it comes down to a fuel-mileage race this weekend that we can take a chance like we did at Kansas City and go for those 10 points versus not being locked in like we were last year and fighting at this time, so it’s definitely taken a lot of the stress and the pressure off, for sure,”

So, Tony is in a position to lay caution to the wind and go for broke in order to gain the 10 bonus points that go with it.

That sounds like drama and potential excitement to me. In addition Johnson and Gordon will not only try gain another 10 bonus points for themselves but have a wary eye on Stewart as well. If they can’t get the points they may try to block, by whatever means, Smoke from getting them.

Then there’s Tony’s teammate Denny Hamlin. He’s locked up a Chase spot but Richmond is his home track. He has two top-five finishes and three top 10s in three previous Richmond races. He finished second in May ‘06 and third last May.

If anyone thinks Hamlin will be stroking at his home tack, with nothing to lose, I’ve got a nuclear powered Vegamatic to sell you.

To reiterate my lede, “you can satisfy some of the people some of the time, but you can’t satisfy all of the people all of the time.” (But you can satisfy people for 16 straight years.)

And some people have so little ambition or imagination they have to gin up some phony tripe about how Richmond isn’t Richmond anymore.

Say, I have an idea… let’s just shut down Richmond. Then Fontana could be the end of the regular season. By most accounts the place already sucks, might as well add to its misery right?

But then the whiners would manufacture another reason wouldn’t they?

“It’s always something — if it isn’t one thing, it’s another.” - Roseanne Rosanna Dana

UPDATE: As noted the other day ISC had widdled down potential buyers for its now useless (to them) Staten Island site.

The decision is made, ISC confirmed it had reached a preliminary agreement to sell its land to ProLogis, the world’s largest developer of distribution warehouses. As Staten Island Advance notes distribution warehouses are “places that are also magnets for trucks” and “the entertainment value is nil.”

The feared flood of fans on race weekends will be replaced by a steady stream of trucks to the site, minus the fun and brand-name sponsorships. Former Borough President Guy Molinari who once worked as a lobbyist for the racetrack proposal, stopped short yesterday of saying, “I told you so.”

To which I’ll add, Buwawawahahaha, SOME PEOPLE, get exactly what they deserve. (read the rest of the Advance article, ISC warned these idiots what would happen and now it has)

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Filed Under: Dale Earnhardt Junior, Denny Hamlin, Jeff Gordon, Jimmie Johnson, Marc Boland, Nascar, Nextel Cup, Richmond, The Water Cooler





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By Luke, Thunder Lounge
Tuesday June 26, 2007
5:34pm CDT
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According to NASCAR, they have made their position clear on playing with the COT and that it is nothing like the previous car what so ever.

Both Johnson and Gordon have been docked 100 points (Driver and Owner), fined $100,000, and their crew chiefs (Letarte and Knaus) have been suspended for 6 events.

The Hendrick teams have been putting in overtime since returning from Sonoma in preparation for this possibility. Their preparation was obviously not in vein.

This marks a new era for NASCAR, and gives the appearance that it is becoming more like the IROC series was. Look at the cars that will roll out at Daytona, and then compare them to the same car at Chicago. If you can’t see an obvious difference in the body, you’re blind as a bat.

However with the COT this isn’t the case. Apparently anything put on it will be considered a NASCAR approved part, and there is no room for ingenuity in engineering. Isn’t that the point? Here’s the rules, now make your car as fast as possible without violating it? The car fit the templates, so where is the problem? What happened to being able to go back and fix it if it wasn’t illegal, and then bringing it back through?

What if someone comes through and their car is a tick low in one corner because a bolt wasn’t tightened enough? Previously, they could fix it and come back through. The tech process is not just an approval process, but a process where it can sometimes help a team avoid a serious issue and subsequent wreck.

So as NASCAR welcomes in an era they will no doubt taut as the era of diversity, thanks to Montoya pulling it off at Sonoma, they also seem to be saying goodbye to the past and the ability for teams to play within the rules to make their car better than their neighbors.

Yet, why wasn’t the #5 or #25 involved in this issue?

To me this is simple. Their cars that they brought had already been raced previously. The #24 and #48 were both new cars that had not been on the track yet. So, it comes down to when and how the body was fabricated.

Unfortunately, NASCAR is also in the position of damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Had there been no additional penalties, they would be criticized by those who don’t understand as showing Hendrick favoritism. Then on the flip side, they open themselves to criticism where they are apparently taking away any areas for the teams to work in.

Certainly if one thought they were skirting a gray area, then would they really put it right in plain view to anyone with two eyes who could see it? I don’t think so, Tim.

So where is the line? NASCAR is obviously drawing it in the sand, so we’ll see what happens from here on out.

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Filed Under: Drivers, Hendrick Motorsports #24, Hendrick Motorsports #48, Jeff Gordon, Jimmie Johnson, Nascar, Nextel Cup, Sonoma/Infineon, Teams, Tracks





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By Luke, Thunder Lounge
Friday June 22, 2007
2:23pm CDT
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Just revealed on NASCAR Live on Speed, in pre-inspection both the #24 and #48 failed to fit the “grid” that NASCAR uses as its template check. You know, that big claw looking thing.

Neither team will be allowed to practice or qualify, and NASCAR will be meeting with the teams to discuss what they will be allowed to participate in this weekend.

Both will start from the back at the pack, 41st and 42nd respectively.

The cars did not conform to “Da Rules”, apparently the issue was with the left front fenders. The template fit the check points, but it was something to do with what was going on in between those particular points and that the fenders were slightly “bowed” out a bit. You may draw a comparison to that whole “X” template thing that a few cars were hit on last season.

As of this post, both cars were in the process of going back through tech. The #48 has made it past “the claw”, and the #24 was still working on it.

What is not known at this time is penalty assessments, or anything else.

I’m sure the rumors and whatever will be flying, as well as the Hendrick “Hater-Aid” as well.

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Filed Under: Drivers, Hendrick Motorsports #24, Hendrick Motorsports #48, Jeff Gordon, Jimmie Johnson, Nascar, Nextel Cup, Sonoma/Infineon, Teams, Tracks





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By Luke, Thunder Lounge
Wednesday June 20, 2007
3:44pm CDT
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Congratulations to Jeff and Ingrid who welcomed Ella Sofia into the world this morning shortly after 9am local time.

From JeffGordon.com

NEW YORK, N.Y. (June 20, 2007) - Earlier today, Jeff Gordon and Ingrid Vandebosch welcomed a new daughter into the world. Ella Sofia Gordon was born at 9:09 a.m., weighed 7 pounds, 1 ounce and was 20 inches long.

“It’s been an absolutely incredible experience,” Gordon said. “Ingrid came through amazingly and we’re both really happy and overjoyed. We can’t wait to get home and start our lives together as a family.”

The four-time NASCAR Cup Series champion will travel to Northern California later this week and is scheduled to participate in all on-track activities at Infineon Raceway, site of this weekend’s NASCAR NEXTEL Cup Series race.

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Filed Under: Drivers, Hendrick Motorsports #24, Jeff Gordon, Nascar, Nextel Cup, Sonoma/Infineon, Teams, Tracks





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