Carl Edwards says “what problems” to new car critics

By Charlie Turner, Thunder Lounge
Published on Thunder Lounge.

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Forty two Sprint Cup drivers hated NASCAR’s experiment in stock car design after the Samsung 500 Sunday at Texas Motor Speedway.

Jeff Gordon actually parked his car early - after an inevitable spin and wall wack - and insisted that crew chief Steve Letarte “fix the dang thing”. Gordon later returned to the track to taste the results of Letarte’s efforts. The leftovers weren’t much better and after a few more laps Gordon called it a day. Jeff said that they tried every possible set-up. Nothing works for the team. That is not a good sign.

Gordon’s teammate Jimmy Johnson finished second and led sixty-some laps. All-in-all that is a big improvement from recent results, but Johnson says the new car needs help. You can’t drive it in traffic, it needs more down-force. And this is a team that has tested the new car nearly every non-race day for the last two weeks. Hell, Chad - can I hear a hallelujah - Knauss is the crew chief! If they can’t figure it out ……?

Maybe Joe Gibbs Racing can. Not according to third place finisher Kyle Busch who said;

“Was it fun to drive? No. Was it hard to drive? Yes,” Busch said. “Did it survive the day? Yes. So was it a good day? Sure.”

Kyle was asked to talk further about the car and said:

“I’m not going to answer that question. Ask NASCAR that question.”

Ryan Newman finished fourth, but flunked the post-race rectal and will undoubtedly lose points, cash and crew chief attendance for a while. Presumably because they exceeded legality in the effort to fix the problems with the car. So much for the cheating solution.

The race winner was Carl “flipper” Edwards - for the third time this year. Carl doesn’t see the problem. At all. It isn’t so much that Edwards thinks that his new cars handle any better than his competitor’s rides. He just thinks the way that they are is OK. The same for everybody, a challenge to drive for sure but rewarding to master. He likes it.

NASCAR says they have no intention of making big - or even small - changes to the former CoT. That fact may make Carl Edwards the eventual champion of the first Sprint CoT Cup Series.

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Filed Under: Carl Edwards, Charlie Turner, Guest Authors, Jeff Gordon, Jimmie Johnson, Kyle Busch, Sprint Cup, Texas

Tagged As: Carl Edwards, Jeff Gordon, Jimmy Johnson, kyle busch, Nascar, Samsung 500, Texas Motor Speedway



Trackback URL for: Carl Edwards says “what problems” to new car critics

By Charlie Turner, Thunder Lounge
Sunday April 6, 2008
9:05am CDT
Published on Thunder Lounge.

NASCAR’s annual silly season is off to an early start.

Last week the story was of Richard Childress Racing capturing the General Mills flag from the Petty #43 and planting it on the hood of a fourth RCR Cup car. Where there’s a car there must eventually be a driver and the speculation began that Petty Enterprises’ Bobby Labonte might make the move to that ride in 2009. The last few days have seen the names of Greg Biffle, Carl Edwards, Martin Truex Jr emerge. Earlier, others had speculated that Tony Stewart and Ryan Newman were possibilities.

Next up came the news that Kyle Petty was pulling himself or being ranked - you decide - from the Petty #45 and being replaced by young Chad McCumbee - at least for the Texas race. The #45 is well out of the top thirty five in owner’s points now and it feels like Kyle may be on the way out of the picture as a full time driver for the venerable team.

Then yesterday came rumblings from Florida, where Chip Ganassi is watching over his Indy Car investment and stewing about the performance of his three Cup teams. Chip isn’t happy with either Dario Franchitti’s or Reed Sorenson’s seasons so far. Ganassi talks as if he feels the problems are more team than driver related. But that wouldn’t make me feel all that comfortable if I were Dario or Reed.

The top thirty five qualifying rule puts more focus and pressure on the tail-enders of Sprint Cup. We’ve only had one race since the automatic qualifiers started being based on this year’s owners’ points. The sixth race of the year is now opening day for NASCAR’s silly season.

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Filed Under: Bobby Labonte, Carl Edwards, Charlie Turner, Chip Ganassi Racing #40, Dario Franchitti, Greg Biffle, Guest Authors, Kyle Petty, Petty Enterprises #45, Reed Sorenson, Ricky Rudd, Sprint Cup, Teams

Tagged As: Chad McCumbee, Chip Ganassi, Greg Biffle, Indy Car, Kyle Petty, Nascar, Petty Enterprises, Richard Childress Racing, silly season, Tony Stewart



Trackback URL for: The six race NASCAR honeymoon is over

By Marc, Thunder Lounge
Monday November 5, 2007
11:54pm CST
Published on Thunder Lounge.

Ah… dem was da days!

The only massaging a stock car body received (aero what!?) was when in very close contact with a competitor or when rim riding, ala Richard Petty as he led the way at Darlington collecting the infamous “Stripe” along the way. As The King said at the time, “We drove for the sheer fun of driving because there wasn’t that much money to be made.”

It was a time of short-sleeve driving attire, 8 inch wide Firestones and the Pure Oil Company being the official supplier of fuel. Did I mention all the Victory Lane kisses given by the Winston Girls or “Winkie Louise”, representing Pure Oil Co. as Miss Firebird?

If any of that sounds familiar, or you have a desire to see some of NASCAR’s past legends live and in action on track 2008 may just be the year for it.

The Old School Racing Champions Tour (OSRCT) has announced a 10 race schedule starting May 18, 2008 at Concord Motor Speedway.

Racing legends David Pearson, Dave Marcis, Harry Gant, James Hylton, Geoff Bodine have all signed to compete. On the probable list are NASCAR stars Jack Ingram, Derrike Cope, Phil Parsons, Robert Pressley, Dave Marcis, Joe Ruttman, Chuck Bown, Randy LaJoie, Carl Long and Ronnie Silver.

From the ranks of ARCA comes Bill Venturini, Bob Schacht and the new owner of The Rock Andy Hillenburg.

The OSRCT will debut at the Concord Motor Speedway in Concord, North Carolina with a 10 race schedule. A champion will be crowned at the New Smyrna Speedway in February of 2009 during a Last Chance and Championship Race.

With an eye towards safety all events will be held on tracks of less the ¾ of a mile in length to keep speeds down and allow for greater fender-to-fender action. And you can bet with the dirt track at Eldora, the high bank quarter mile at Flat Rock Mi, in addition to South Boston in Virginia the schedule provides just that.

This PDF file provides the full run down on the cars, stars and venues as currently planned.

This series has me so intrigued it’s almost worth looking into a trip back stateside to catch a couple events. For those of you not stuck out in the middle of the Pacific like I am, and hold a interest in NASCAR’s past history, shouldn’t miss this opportunity to catch at least one of the 12 events.

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Filed Under: Busch Series, Marc Boland, Nascar, Nascar History





Trackback URL for: Gettin’ That Old Time NASCAR Religion

By Marc, Thunder Lounge
Tuesday October 16, 2007
7:11pm CDT
Published on Thunder Lounge.

Kyle Petty has something to say about the current state of affairs in NASCAR and how many of its fans view the sport:

“I really want to know what is it that race fans want,’’ Petty says, noting the fan uproar about racing at Bristol and Talladega, which both used the COT.

“I’m not really sure that they even know what they want. I think they’ve been sold a bill of goods on what racing used to be. Racing wasn’t always 43 cars under a blanket. Racing was Bill Elliott winning Talladega by a lap on the field.’’

There it is, the clear unvarnished truth.

Richard Petty once won a race after going 3 laps down, and his winning margin was 7 LAPS! In case you didn’t catch that, in effect he was 10 laps better than everyone else in the field.

If that were to happen today, there would be an insurrection in the grandstands as the laps wound down. A few brown bottle tossed Jeffy’s way would be mild in comparison. Yet the sky is falling around NASCAR Nation because OMG, someone leads the most laps and wins a race by 2 seconds!

I read a recent suggestion and long discussion the Chase should provide a process of elimination. A loss and you out sort of thing similar to a baseball or football playoff.

Sounds crazy I know, even crazier is the idea was floated by someone who’s “Anti-Chase Mantra” is “why do they wanna make NASCAR like other sports?” You figure it out, I damn sure can’t, and feel no great need to delve into the convoluted logic it takes to hold those two positions.

As you know the fan base discontent doesn’t end there, it touches on the shifting make-up of the financial side of the sport. The flurry of partnerships and mergers this season is unprecedented in the sport.

The deals give each team more money and resources, making the cost to start a team from scratch almost prohibitive. To be a part of NASCAR, someone almost has to buy into a team. The question is, is that a good thing or bad for the sport?

Joe Gibbs has tentative (tentative because the fallout from all the changes are yet to be felt) answer for that:

“To me, that’s a good thing,’’ said J.D. Gibbs, president of Joe Gibbs Racing, which will switch from Chevrolet to Toyota next season. “I’ve got value in my team. Five, six, seven years ago, there was not much value in your team.’’

WOW, value in a race team. What a concept.

In previous days the “value” in a race team was regained the only way possible, via an auction of the assembled parts that were bought by other teams for pennies on the dollar.

If Gibbs is right team owners have equity, something they’ve never had before. Also, it may put on hold any thoughts some may have of starting some type of franchising in NASCAR.

With all the changes on the financial side of NASCAR it’s way too early to make any definitive judgment, that may take years to get any real feel for them.

I’m willing to wait and see, unfortunately many are not, some have already tossed France and NASCAR under the bus transporter.

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Filed Under: Damn Good Points, Marc Boland, Nascar, The Soapbox





Trackback URL for: A Public Service Message for Disgruntled NASCAR Fans

By Marc, Thunder Lounge
Monday October 8, 2007
9:57pm CDT
Published on Thunder Lounge.

Just as he did a couple months back Ray Evernham has “come clean” over his workplace dalliance with ARCA RE/MAX driver Erin Crocker.

Crocker competed at Talladega in Evernham’s Mac Tools Dodge finishing 18^th and wrapped up the series’ Superspeedway Challenge Title that includes events held at Daytona, Nashville, Kentucky, Pocono, Michigan, Kansas, Gateway, Chicagoland and Talladega.

After the event Evernham said Crocker still is trying to put together a deal to run next season in the Craftsman Truck, Busch Nationwide or ARCA series.

“There could be some partnerships for her to run the whole ARCA series,” Evernham said. “We’re going to do everything we can to help her move on, and hopefully people will take her more seriously when she’s off on her own.”

Ok Ray, for the second time we get it. You’re sorry for being an asshat on the job and your sorry. As a result you’re attempting to make amends by assisting her in her job search for 2008 and beyond.

But I question his dedication to the job at hand. Look at what Ray provided for Crocker to compete with at Talladega:

“The car we brought was not a great car and not a great engine, and we didn’t have time to prepare or work on it,” Evernham said. “We knew we had to finish 20th or better, and we rode around the back and that didn’t work for us. And 40 laps to go, she had to get up there and race. It was pretty nerve wracking.

“I hope that people take notice of the things she has done.”

Ray… what else did you have to do? It’s not like you had one, two or three cars in NASCAR’s Chase.

Granted last Friday there were still 7 events left in the NASCAR year and Dodge provides millions to GEM to compete in and that part of his operation should take priority.

I’ll also concede Crocker only needed to place 20^th or higher to clinch the ARCA Superspeedway title, but still, wouldn’t it have been better to provide the best possible equipment to run during one of the premier events on the ARCA schedule?

I’m of the opinion Crocker could have had “people take notice” in a far more favorable light if she could have won at Talladega vice riding around the back.

Crocker’s job search equation breaks down this way; What would gain more press coverage, an ARCA Superspeedway Challenge Title or the first ever female winner in a major stock car circuit on one of the showcase ovals in America?

Something doesn’t compute.

Ray, you’re not even trying and Erin got screwed again! This time with her firesuit on!

Cross posted @ Full Throttle.

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Filed Under: Marc Boland, Nascar, Talladega, The Soapbox, The Way I See It





Trackback URL for: Ray Evernham “Films” a Sequel

By Marc, Thunder Lounge
Thursday September 6, 2007
2:48pm CDT
Published on Thunder Lounge.

To borrow, and butcher someone else’s phrase; You can satisfy some of the people some of the time, but you can’t satisfy all of the people all of the time.

What brought me to this not so startling conclusion is a couple days looking at NASCAR headlines and stories as we head into NASCAR final “regular season” event at Richmond.

Here is one example that is fairly accurate and representative of various sources that all play on the same theme, the new Chase with 12 teams admitted to the party has “ruined” Richmond.

“Chase playoff rules strip drama from race.” The gist of this article is based on a hypothetical:

“Had the series headed to race No. 26 at Richmond under the original Chase rules, four drivers separated by 38 points would go into this weekend’s Chevy Rock and Roll 400 battling for the last two spots.”

This is where I insert, “yeah but,” the Beloved One would be 161 points behind and not hanging by the thread of 128 points as he is now.

Put another way, a virtual certainty vice as least a thread of hope. And here’s another “but,” that offers a bit of drama, Junior has won three times at Richmond, including his last Cup win in May 2006.

It’s also appropriate to highlight the words of Tony Stewart at this point:

“It’s nice coming here [Richmond] and knowing that if it comes down to a fuel-mileage race this weekend that we can take a chance like we did at Kansas City and go for those 10 points versus not being locked in like we were last year and fighting at this time, so it’s definitely taken a lot of the stress and the pressure off, for sure,”

So, Tony is in a position to lay caution to the wind and go for broke in order to gain the 10 bonus points that go with it.

That sounds like drama and potential excitement to me. In addition Johnson and Gordon will not only try gain another 10 bonus points for themselves but have a wary eye on Stewart as well. If they can’t get the points they may try to block, by whatever means, Smoke from getting them.

Then there’s Tony’s teammate Denny Hamlin. He’s locked up a Chase spot but Richmond is his home track. He has two top-five finishes and three top 10s in three previous Richmond races. He finished second in May ‘06 and third last May.

If anyone thinks Hamlin will be stroking at his home tack, with nothing to lose, I’ve got a nuclear powered Vegamatic to sell you.

To reiterate my lede, “you can satisfy some of the people some of the time, but you can’t satisfy all of the people all of the time.” (But you can satisfy people for 16 straight years.)

And some people have so little ambition or imagination they have to gin up some phony tripe about how Richmond isn’t Richmond anymore.

Say, I have an idea… let’s just shut down Richmond. Then Fontana could be the end of the regular season. By most accounts the place already sucks, might as well add to its misery right?

But then the whiners would manufacture another reason wouldn’t they?

“It’s always something — if it isn’t one thing, it’s another.” - Roseanne Rosanna Dana

UPDATE: As noted the other day ISC had widdled down potential buyers for its now useless (to them) Staten Island site.

The decision is made, ISC confirmed it had reached a preliminary agreement to sell its land to ProLogis, the world’s largest developer of distribution warehouses. As Staten Island Advance notes distribution warehouses are “places that are also magnets for trucks” and “the entertainment value is nil.”

The feared flood of fans on race weekends will be replaced by a steady stream of trucks to the site, minus the fun and brand-name sponsorships. Former Borough President Guy Molinari who once worked as a lobbyist for the racetrack proposal, stopped short yesterday of saying, “I told you so.”

To which I’ll add, Buwawawahahaha, SOME PEOPLE, get exactly what they deserve. (read the rest of the Advance article, ISC warned these idiots what would happen and now it has)

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Filed Under: Dale Earnhardt Junior, Denny Hamlin, Jeff Gordon, Jimmie Johnson, Marc Boland, Nascar, Nextel Cup, Richmond, The Water Cooler





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By Frank Morrison, Thunder Lounge
Thursday August 30, 2007
11:01am CDT
Published on Thunder Lounge.

Carl Kiekhaefer. The founder of the Mercury Outboard division entered
NASCAR Grand National in 1955. The eccentric Carl Kiekhaefer was only
dominating force for two years in NASCAR (He raced white Chrysler’s and
Dodge’s). Kiekhaefer demanding only excellence from every part of his
team. He took on NASCAR with the passion of a stout business man and
the success that no team owner has been able to duplicate since.

Many of his records as a team owner have been deemed unbeatable even
today. The most prolific of his records is from 1956 when a car from
his stable won an amazing 16 races in a row. From March 25 through June
3, 1956 his team was undefeated.

Four different drivers from his stables won during this streak. Buck
Baker 8 times, Speedy Thompson 4 times, Herb Thomas 3 times, and Tim
Flock 1 time. Six times during the streak his cars lead from green to
checkered. In the Virginia 500 at Martinsville his whit cars led 494
laps of 500. Concord 199 of 200 laps. The 1956 standings showed Carl
Kiekhaefer’s team won 30 of 51 starts. The Champion from 1956 Buck
Baker drove a white Kiekhaefer as did the Champion from 1955 Tim Flock.

Flock’s 1955 run was more impressive than any other run before him and
better then any I can remember (Rusty with 10, Jeff with 13 nothing).
Flock won 18 races and 19 poles (Ryan maybe you should take some
lessons). Flock led from green to checkered in 11 races.

Carl’s record in his two years in NASCAR 90 starts, 52 wins (between 7
drivers). The white Kiekhaefer’s dominance caused a riff between him
and other owners and Bill France. Carl claimed his cars were sabotaged
if his cars didn’t win, and heightened suspicion when they did.

During an odd slide at the end of the 56 season Carl sent out a memo
offer a $500 dollar reward to the employee who found the other employee
who was sabotaging the cars. After that the team closed with 5 wins in
a row.

Carl and his entire crew were treated badly by the media and fans
because of the success (Jeff Gordon fans can relate). It hurt him
deeply and was often heard questioning out loud “What have I done?” or
“I guess they want me to quit”.

Carl’s fate was signed, sealed, and delivered at the end of the 1956
season. With Buck Baker trailing Herb Thomas (Quit Carl’s team mid
season) the final race at Shelby, NC was the deciding factor. Speedy
Thompson hooked Thomas’ rear bumper and sent Thomas into an end over end
spill that critically injured Thomas. Buck Baker cruised to an easy
victory and won the championship.

Carl never showed his face at another NASCAR race. He was quoted as
saying “We just can’t afford to have our name further associated with
racing”, was the reason he gave for not returning to NASCAR. Records
are made to be broken but it is doubtful his will be in my lifetime,
Brady if it happens put the article on your dad’s grave.

Well that is the story of the original “Cat in the Hat”. See you soon
with 1958 year in highlights “The year the boy who would become king
runs his first race”.

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Filed Under: Features, Frank Morrison, Guest Authors, Nascar, The People Of Nascar





Trackback URL for: The Original Cat In The Hat

By Marc, Thunder Lounge
Wednesday August 8, 2007
4:20am CDT
Published on Thunder Lounge.

How NASCAR operates before, during and after an event is always under scrutiny.

Condemnation comes from all sides. Fans, the press (both “beat reporters” and drive-bys that don’t now their ass from their hat) and those of us in the racing blogosphere, commonly called The Exalted, all take shots at Peoples Commissar of NASCAR Affairs (a/k/a Brian France) & Co on a regular basis.

Much of the column space and bandwidth is devoted to how NASCAR’s troop of inspectors go about their jobs and it’s not often one gets a chance to hear their side.

Well, thanks to Meredith Long of the The Sporting News we have that opportunity. What follows is a Q & A session Long conducted with NASCAR inspector Jim Wagner-Brownell.

(NOTE: Wagner-Brownell is real, his answers have been edited for “brevity.” Some would call it “literary license” or “artistic expression,” I’ll stick with brevity.)

How did you get started in NASCAR?

“Well Meredith, originally I wanted to be an optometrist but soon discovered I suffered from an extreme case of myopia, a condition of the eye in which objects can only be seen distinctly when near to the eye. In my case a 1/4 inch close. I always enjoyed NASCAR and figured, damn those cars are SO BIG myopia wouldn’t be a problem.”

What is the craziest thing you’ve seen on pit road?

“Oh wow, there’s so many things. One time Dick Trickle tossed a Depends out of his window and it hit the jackman square in the face. That one cost 15 seconds getting those sticky strips off his face before the car got off the ground.

“Then there was the time Mark Martin lost a minute and a half thanking his crew for the 13 second stop 40 laps previously. A real gentleman that Martin.”

What is the hardest part about your job?

“You have to ask? It’s that damnable Mythical Rulebook!” It changes more often than Lohan hits rehab.”

“And then… then there’s that CORN thing. They roll one into the inspection stall and I get the overwhelming feeling I’m Dr. Frankenstein as that crab-like thing encloses it! It’s gotten so bad I’ve retained Dr. Phil for the 2008 season when the CORN goes full time!”

What is the one thing you see that doesn’t pass inspection the most?

“The Mythical Rulebook. With every reprinting it contains more spelling errors, grammatical faux pas and the worst part, each edition has another chapter printed in disappearing ink! I suspect by the 2010 season the entire thing will look like Saran Wrap”

“Oh, did I mention Jet Fuel Meredith? It fails every time.”

There you have it, the ever elusive NASCAR Inspector, unplugged! The Half-Vast Staff of Thunder Lounge would like to thank Meredith Long for this rare chance to get behind the scenes.

WAY, behind the scenes!

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Filed Under: Marc Boland, Nascar, Ridiculous Posts, The People Of Nascar





Trackback URL for: The Great NASCAR Inspector Inqusition!

By Marc, Thunder Lounge
Wednesday July 25, 2007
7:09pm CDT
Published on Thunder Lounge.

This is a follow on to a previous post at my other place of unemployement, Wishing You Were Brian France.

In it I opined many of the head honchos of America’s major sports might hold a bit of jealousy in their hearts for Brian France’s position based on the current scandals enveloping them recently.

This missive takes the opposite view.

Not withstanding France’s possession of “palm tree debris” and “sodas” while navigating condominium parking lots, NASCAR’s CEO has led a rather charmed life during his tenure. The sport is still number two and despite the slight down turn in viewership recently it remains the sport of choice for viewers on most weekends of the year.

Read this as a cautionary tale. Or if you so choose, pure BS. (a decision made while head is planted in sand)

Two of the current scandals on front pages from NYC to Kookamunga are a NBA referee’s ties to gambling and the NFL’s Bad Newz problem.

Both have a common thread, gambling. That connection is plain to see in the NBA’s case but I have seen some commentary that gives me an indication not everyone understands what drives the evil “sport” of dog fighting.

Without the ability to gamble on the outcome of dogfights the activity would be virtually nonexistent.

At this point I have no idea what NASCAR’s or ISC’s stance on gambling by its credential holders is. Obviously any illegal gambling would fall under the catchall of both the morals clause contained in every contract and Sections of The Mythical Rulebook 12-4-A (actions detrimental to stock car racing).

Beyond that I’m clueless. If anyone has heard or read of a more public stance by NASCAR officials drop the reference in the comment section.

I’m also unaware whether NASCAR has taken any preemptive action.

For example, the NFL allows FBI and other law enforcement personnel into the training camps to lecture teams on the pervasive nature of gambling and how easy it is to fall prey to the less than desirables that operate on the periphery of the industry.

I’m not sure if this policy is in effect for NASCAR, again if you know, straighten me out.

Before some of you may consider this as a “sky is falling” scenario, save it. It’s much better to assume the worst than wait until your view is obscured by “clouds” that have already fallen. Unfortunately, NASCAR has a habit of reacting, not acting on many occasions.

NASCAR has operated close to the gambling industry for a number of years. Holding events in Las Vegas is the most visible manifestation of that but there have been a few instances of race teams having secondary sponsors of casinos and the like.

Nothing wrong with that. It’s the scumbags, lowlifes, and at the risk of getting a knock on my door by “Guido,” The Mob types that orbit around legal gambling where the problem is.

Gambling on NASCAR is becoming big business. Select your search engine of choice and enter “NASCAR Gambling,” if you have any doubts. (Gordon & Johnson are co-favorites at 5/1 to win the Allstate 400)

(Speculation alert: What follows is pure fantasy but very plausible)

Despite the fallacy of NASCAR personnel being rednecks with IQ’s somewhere south of the Great Apes the majority are highly educated and that has led many of them to be very large fans of their alma mater’s basketball and college football teams.

Say, for example, a pit crew member of the #011 Adult Diapers Chevy gets into heavy debt to his bookie betting on his alma mater’s football team after a 2 and 10 season.

“Bonaventura the Bookie” is becoming increasingly upset with the several thousand dollar marker owed since late November and goes to said pit crew member in mid-January with an “offer he can’t refuse.”

Pay up, or sabotage the current betting favorite #011 Adult Diapers Chevy during the Daytona 500. Failure to comply will be at the risk of three broken legs. (the “third” being the most important to this young stud)

From there it’s easy to envision a dropped jack at the most inopportune time sending the #011 from first to 32nd, introducing a “slow leak” in a tire during a stop (don’t think something similar can’t happen? Think again.) or other performance degrading activity.

It’s all too easy for a single crew member to make a driver go from hero to zero in the span of a few laps. There’s a small margin between the two, a margin closed with such ease to be almost laughable.

NASCAR Nation has its share of caution flag/team favoritism Conspiracy Nuts, the last thing NASCAR needs is anything that even smells of a races outcome being altered for the sake of bets made on an event.

It goes without saying if it ever happens Brian France will wish he weren’t Brian France.

As said earlier, this is a cautionary tale but one that should, and better, be taken seriously by France and the ISC (and it’s share holders). If they have ignored the problem (something they have a habit of doing) mores the pity, they deserve the same treatment the NFL and NBA are getting now.

UPDATE: Hardly a surprising comment from Greg Biffle who has made plain his animal rights advocacy: “Just put him in prison and tell the general public, just give them all the details of what they do with those dogs,” Biffle said. “How they steal people’s dogs out of their front yards and use them for bait dogs and let other dogs kill them. There’s all the horrifying stories. You look at all the pictures on the Internet of the dogs, just maimed, mangled. It’s horrible.”

Nothing I can add except this, the NFL, and NASCAR better look at the gambling that fuels the cock fighting “industry.”

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Filed Under: Marc Boland, Nascar, Nextel Cup, The Soapbox, The Way I See It





Trackback URL for: Do You REALLY Want to be Brian France?

By Clance' McClannahan, Thunder Lounge
Sunday July 22, 2007
5:56pm CDT
Published on Thunder Lounge.

After hours of searching and researching, I believe I have found the Ultimate Answer’s to the many questions posed on Thunder Lounge.com.

Yes, Marc, “Word is he’s been suspended under NASCAR’s Mythical Rulebook Section 12-4-A, “actions detrimental to stock car racing.” The exact violation hasn’t been detailed but indications are Luke was seen in the Texas Motor Speedway infield selling cheap copies of the Mythical Rulebook while wearing a gold tin foil hat.”

There have been many violations, one in particular, which brought about the horrid act, and turned the suspended one into a computer geek.

The exact violation of Section 12-4-A, “actions detrimental to stock car racing” was this post. Once up a time there was someone who dared such a dis’ to my driver… She however, was only put on probation for a first time violation. as she made the comments in ignorance, not being a NASCAR fan.

On the other hand, should Mr. Luke be given another chance? If so, how many? Just one? Two?
Or shall we say three strikes and you are out and just take over Thunder Lounge? Should we send him to Bash and Beat Up Tony Rehab in some nutzo forum somewhere, or would that be too harsh of a punishment?

I truly wish to recieve such marvelous feedback on post as was given to Aaron Fike, Don’t Let the Pit Gate Hit You. I, being the toothless hillbilly that I am, missed out on that lovely little party. The gate was locked, and rightfully so.

I had planned on doing a post about random drug use in NASCAR prior to the fire elementals threatening my home. Old news now. I have a pretty broad outlook and open mind. I too, believe that, in the world of NASCAR, there is no room for another chance. The sport is way too dangerous to have someone who is using drugs anywhere near a race car or truck. Yes, even if it was only mariwhanna.

Aaron Fike was not using “only” pot. He was using HEROIN, and shooting it up with NEEDLES. Now, I come from the old hippi world, and even in the 60’s and 70’s, “back in my days”, shooting up, meant SKANK. Heroin meant waaaaayyyy out of control. Not cool. In this day and age, the drugs are stronger and much more dangerous, and addictive. I do hope he, his gal, and the other NASCAR driver’s who have issues with addiction, get the help they need. But second chance in NASCAR? No way.

I do think, that after proper rehab, we should give ol’ Luke a second chance. He and Marc both need new hats, which was the second reason for suspension.
Why wasn’t Marc suspended for such an outlandish, blatent defiance of NASCAR’s Mythical Rulebook Section 12-4-A, “actions detrimental to stock car racing.”.
Because he was creative about it, I guess. When will the rules ever be the same for all?
By the way, the propellor has been found. It’s on the back of some guys bike.
While I was searching for it, I also found a picture of why I believe NASCAR driver’s should just say no to drugs.

On a final note, today’s deep thought:

Handle every situation like a dog.
If you can’t eat it or screw it,
Piss on it and walk away.

(I have edited and edited and cannot get this to format correctly, therefore I am taking my own advise)

Any questions??

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