The six race NASCAR honeymoon is over

By Charlie Turner, Thunder Lounge
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NASCAR’s annual silly season is off to an early start.

Last week the story was of Richard Childress Racing capturing the General Mills flag from the Petty #43 and planting it on the hood of a fourth RCR Cup car. Where there’s a car there must eventually be a driver and the speculation began that Petty Enterprises’ Bobby Labonte might make the move to that ride in 2009. The last few days have seen the names of Greg Biffle, Carl Edwards, Martin Truex Jr emerge. Earlier, others had speculated that Tony Stewart and Ryan Newman were possibilities.

Next up came the news that Kyle Petty was pulling himself or being ranked - you decide - from the Petty #45 and being replaced by young Chad McCumbee - at least for the Texas race. The #45 is well out of the top thirty five in owner’s points now and it feels like Kyle may be on the way out of the picture as a full time driver for the venerable team.

Then yesterday came rumblings from Florida, where Chip Ganassi is watching over his Indy Car investment and stewing about the performance of his three Cup teams. Chip isn’t happy with either Dario Franchitti’s or Reed Sorenson’s seasons so far. Ganassi talks as if he feels the problems are more team than driver related. But that wouldn’t make me feel all that comfortable if I were Dario or Reed.

The top thirty five qualifying rule puts more focus and pressure on the tail-enders of Sprint Cup. We’ve only had one race since the automatic qualifiers started being based on this year’s owners’ points. The sixth race of the year is now opening day for NASCAR’s silly season.

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Filed Under: Bobby Labonte, Carl Edwards, Charlie Turner, Chip Ganassi Racing #40, Dario Franchitti, Greg Biffle, Guest Authors, Kyle Petty, Petty Enterprises #45, Reed Sorenson, Ricky Rudd, Sprint Cup, Teams

Tagged As: Chad McCumbee, Chip Ganassi, Greg Biffle, Indy Car, Kyle Petty, Nascar, Petty Enterprises, Richard Childress Racing, silly season, Tony Stewart



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By Luke, Thunder Lounge
Friday March 28, 2008
3:31pm CDT
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The sky is falling. NASCAR hates Toyota. Whatever you want to build into a conspiracy. I won’t, but feel free to have at it.

It’s now official, the bullshit flag now raised. The following decision by NASCAR stinks to high heaven.

NASCAR has denied the request of Michael Waltrip Racing to switch Owners Points from the #00 Dream Machine to the #44 UPS Toyota Camry.

Why would MWR want to do that anyway? If you don’t know by now, David Reutimann has taken over the wheel of the #44 effective at the conclusion of Bristol two weeks ago. He replaces Dale Jarrett, who now enters “retirement” and moves into the broadcast booth for ESPN. DJ will run the All-Star race in May as his final event.

This being the case, David Reutimann had earned a 27th spot thus far in the 2008 Owners Points, while Dale Jarrett was 34th. With rookie Michael McDowell taking over the #00, Michael Waltrip Racing wanted to allow David to keep what he had earned for Owners Points thus far this season, giving the rookie McDowell the left overs.

Honestly, that makes more sense then being handed points on a silver platter. I shall now cough while saying a name who has manipulated the Owners Points recently.

David Reutimann earned his points for the Owners Standings, and allowing him to keep them would be the right thing to do. However, NASCAR’s Sprint Cup Series Director, John Darby, says that, “point swaps typically are granted only when there is a change in a business function or when an owner is trying to reorganize during the offseason.”

Or if you want to manipulate the system to get a driver into the points to make a race, should be added to that statement.

So you can take points from your top car and give it to the new guy, but you can’t allow for a driver who earned his way to keep them when a number change is initiated within the organization.

The one time where a point swap within the same organization makes sense, and isn’t abusing the system, and NASCAR gets it wrong.

It wouldn’t matter who it is. Under these circumstances a points swap is not only logical, but honorable. However, it seems that honor isn’t something on NASCAR’s mind with this decision.

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Filed Under: David Reutimann, Drivers, Martinsville, Michael Waltrip Racing #00, Michael Waltrip Racing #44, Nascar, Sprint Cup, Teams, Tracks

Tagged As: David Reutimann, Michael McDowell, Michael Waltrip Racing, MWR, Top-35, UPS



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By Luke, Thunder Lounge
Wednesday March 19, 2008
12:21pm CDT
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This is the question that has went unasked thus far in 2008. It’s time, past time actually, to ask it.

Currently, the best Rookie in the Owners Points is Sam Hornish Jr. He currently sits in 35th for 2008, as we head into race #6 where this years points take effect. Next up is Martinsville, and there are guys behind him with a lot more experience at this track. Considering the finesse it takes, this track has a habit of kicking Rookies to the curb. The odds of Hornish Jr. overcoming this are ones I wouldn’t take in any bookie joint in the land.

Behind Sam Hornish Jr. comes the rest of the 2008 Raybestos Rookie of the Year candidates.

Dario Franchitti is in 38th, just 37 points back, with Regan Smith nipping at his heels and just 2 points behind him in 39th.

Then we have Patrick Carpentier bringing up the rear, 186 points out of 35th (46th overall) and just 2 starts out of 5 possible this season. Stick a fork in their Top-35 efforts. They’re done.

What begs to be asked is that whether or not the Top-35 will be the deciding factor in the Raybestos Rookie of the Year winner for 2008. I’ll bet it does. It already has.

For those who are unfamiliar with how this all works out, here’s the description from the NASCAR.com Rookie Standings Page:

“Raybestos Rookie of the Year candidates earn points based on their best 17 finishes of the season. Points are earned through entry points, competition points based on finish, top 10 bonus points, bonus points based on three segments of the season and a panel of voters at the completion of the season.”

You will notice that it says “their best 17 finishes of the season“.

If driver A makes 30 races, and the next driver makes 20 races, didn’t driver A just get a 10 race advantage by having the opportunity to have more races to select their best 17 finishes from?

Sam Hornish Jr. is in 35th right now. What’s also not taken into consideration is that at least for a race or two, quite possibly more, Michael McDowell will be in the #00 for Michael Waltrip Racing when David Reutimann takes over the #44 at Martinsville.

Not that it’s likely, but the possibility (however slim) is there that just by him keeping it in the Top-35 he could literally run away with the Rookie of the Year, and missing the first 5 races of the year. Then again, it could be Hornish that does the same. Based solely on nothing more than having had 17 races to choose from, when other drivers may have much less.

While those races are not the only factor, they make up most of it. That being the case, the better the odds and the more races you have under your belt, the better you’re going to come out in the wash.

Now the question is, is this a fair way to judge the performance of the rookie class? Sure, you have to make a race to compete, which is part of the whole process. However, if someone makes just 12, but runs really well (better than someone barely keeping it in the Top-35) then how does that play out?

What we have here is yet another fiasco waiting to happen, and it’s on the verge of exploding. Nothing against Sam Hornish Jr., or any other rookie for that matter, however there is room for improvement in the overall system.

I don’t know what the answer is, honestly. There are so many possibilities, and none that can be implemented mid-stream in the season.

Should you go back to a 2 day qualifying session with provisionals? Maybe lock in the Top-20 as well?

How about increase the field? Where did 42 plus one past champion, to make 43 spots come from anyway? Why not add a couple starting spots, and make it an even 46, 48, or even 50? Surely there is enough room for everyone. OK, Martinsville and Bristol might be a tick on the tight side, but it can be done.

Right now, there are enough teams that are trying to run full time that opening even 3 more spots would help. There wouldn’t be a worry of “field fillers”, although some at the very back of the Top-50 in points now could be considered flirting with that concept. However, that’s not by lack of effort, it’s from a lack of funding, brought on by the whole Top-35 deal.

I have no answer to the problem, but there has to be a solution that works out for everyone involved. Whether that’s more spots, less lock-in’s, provisionals, or whatever the case may be.

One thing I do know, however, is that Saturday’s at Richmond (and Bristol) sure are boring when there isn’t a thing going on at the track before the sun goes down, the lights come up, and the show begins.

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Filed Under: Chip Ganassi Racing #40, Dale Earnhardt Inc #01, Dario Franchitti, Drivers, Evernham Motorsports #10, Martinsville, Nascar, Regan Smith, Sprint Cup, Teams, Tracks

Tagged As: Dario Franchitti, Michael McDowell, Michael Waltrip Racing, Patrick Carpentier, Raybestos, Regan Smith, Rookie, Rookie of the Year, ROTY, Sam Hornish Jr, Top-35



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By Luke, Thunder Lounge
Sunday March 16, 2008
7:04pm CDT
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It ain’t over, ’til it’s over.

With 5 to go, Burton was running 5th. A Top-5 at Bristol is an accomplishment, but the race was far from over as they came to the green from a caution with 11 to go.

Tony Stewart, Denny Hamlin, and Dale Earnhardt Jr stayed the course while the rest of the cars on the lead lap came in for tires. With the restart, Kevin Harvick started in 4th, followed by Burton and Clint Bowyer.

Stewart jumped out to a slight lead, which was quickly erased and removed entirely by Denny Hamlin. Along came Harvick to the inside of Stewart, Kevin lost it and slided up into Stewart who backed it into the fence bringing out the caution with 2 to go and setting up overtime. As this happened, Burton squeezed by Harvick who slid in behind Burton.

Hamlin lead the attack to the green, white, checker finish but had fuel pickup issues which let Burton, Harvick, and Bowyer slip by to the outside for an RCR 1, 2, 3 finish.

Wow.

Up until that point, it had been another episode of Joe Gibbs Show, with all three leads taking the credit. Kyle Busch was strong, and possibly the strongest car in the field. However, JGR had a power steering box failure for the second week in a row, but this time it bit Rowdy instead of Denny. He went into the corner, in the lead no less, and just lost it.

Denny and Tony were also very strong, with Stewart leading the most laps [again] yet failing to seal the deal. We know what happened to Hamlin, who ended up 6th. Stewart finished 14th.

For the 4th time in 5 races, Dale Earnhardt Jr. carried the banner for Hendrick Motorsports by finishing 5th. Next best from the stable was Jeff Gordon in 11th. Jimmie Johnson brought it home in 18th, while again Casey Mears found his luck payments still due and ended up in 42nd.

Roush wasn’t bad at Bristol either. Greg Biffle carried the flag with a 4th place run, Matt Kenseth was 10th, and Carl Edwards was 16th. David Ragan was the first car not in the Top-20, while Jamie McMurray brought up the rear of the field after an early accident where Dario Franchitti slipped and punted him to the fence.

It was Bristol, what else can you say?

I counted no less than 4 lines, and there were probably more. There were 3 lanes through the corner, although the middle and top were all but on top of each other. Naturally you had your bottom, and also the diamond approach.

It will be interesting watching this track surface age. After its debut last August, a little more wear on it should make it quite interesting. When you have a track where people leave their tickets in their will, you know it’s going to be good.

Bristol did not disappoint.

Next up is Martinsville in two weeks, as the Cup Series takes it’s first off-weekend for Easter. After that, it’s time to pound down them beers at the one and only, Thunder Lounge.

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Filed Under: Bristol, Craftsman Truck Series, Drivers, Jeff Burton, Nascar, Richard Childress Racing #31, Sprint Cup, Teams, Tracks

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By Luke, Thunder Lounge
Saturday March 8, 2008
12:04pm CST
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Tony Stewart may as well have been using one of my favorite Dave Chappelle quotes.

Goodyear is f**kin’ up!

Tony just doesn’t understand it. Why does Goodyear overcompensate on the tires?

In an actual praise of the weather, being thankful that it’s cold enough at Atlanta today to compensate for Goodyear’s incompetence with their tire selection, Tony commented that the garage is just trying to get through the weekend.

Goodyear has changed up the overall composition and construction of the left side tires to provide more grip, but at the same time they’ve increased the hardness of the right side tire compound which removes grip.

It was also explained, and something I was unaware of, that Goodyear is bringing the same tires (at least for the right side) for both the Nationwide Series and the Sprint Cup Series to use. In doing so, they went with a compromise where the right side tire is good for the Nationwide side, and something the Cup side “can live with”.

Tony Stewart made the remark that when you stroke a check big enough to NASCAR, you can have free reign with your product selection, even when that selection is junk.

Atlanta hasn’t been recently paved. It’s been 10 years, actually, so what is the deal here?

Bobby Labonte tested for Goodyear at Atlanta back in December, so what’s going on with this?

Are the engineers at Goodyear not competent enough to remember that during such a test the racetrack will be green, and therefore wear the tires a little harder than on a competition weekend? I’d like to think that’s not the case.

Are they overly paranoid of right side tire failures on the intermediate tracks?

Are they being cheap, and trying to get by with using the same thing all weekend?

Then again could it be that Tony’s lacking something in his car and laying out a case just in case his run at Atlanta, which happens to be the HQ of his sponsor Home Depot, is less than spectacular? Could it be a little bit of both circumstances? I will note that Tony Stewart typically runs quite well at Atlanta, and one could expect that whatever the circumstances he will adapt and overcome.

Tony Stewart has typically been the first driver to speak out about tires during a given weekend. Does the rest of the garage feel similar about the tire selection by Goodyear?

What bothers me most about these comments is this. These types of tracks make up the bulk of the NASCAR schedule. I’m also concerned because the next track of this type on the schedule is Texas Motor Speedway.

It’s been on again, off again for racing at the 1.5mile oval. At times the show is good, but at other times the show has been less than spectacular.

If you combine the elements of the new car, this apparent tire issue, and past history you’re heading into a big unknown for Texas Motor Speedway. If one were in the shoes of Eddie Gossage it would have to be at least a small concern in the back of your mind. It’s an SMI track, and the facilities are absolutely top notch. However, being the home track of Thunder Lounge, we can’t help but to be on pins and needles a little bit in regards to the show.

Last fall was a battle between Matt Kenseth and Jimmie Johnson late in the the goings, and highlighted the quality of racing capable at the track. On the other hand, they have been many a strung out parade as well.

With that all taken into consideration, flip a coin. Head it’ll be a show, tails it will be a parade. That’s about as close to a prediction as you’re going to get. With the new car, competition should be much closer. Thus you could conclude that the parade won’t necessarily be a factor. On the other hand, with the tire issue being complained about by Tony Stewart, it could turn into a conservative “make it through the weekend” type of race.

Whatever the case may be, we hope the issues being complained of this weekend won’t be an issue when NASCAR returns to The Great American Speedway, leaving the show in the competitors hands.

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Filed Under: Atlanta, Drivers, Joe Gibbs Racing #20, Nascar, Sprint Cup, Teams, Texas, Tony Stewart, Tracks

Tagged As: Atlanta Motor Speedway, Goodyear, Hotlanta, Jimmie Johnson, Matt Kenseth, Texas Motor Speedway, The Great American Speedway, Tire Issues, Tony Stewart



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By Luke, Thunder Lounge
Wednesday March 5, 2008
7:42pm CST
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NASCAR handed out, or handed back if you prefer, points a plenty this afternoon.

In an unprecedented move, NASCAR not only swiped the recent standard of 100 driver/owner points, 6 week vacation and $100,000 fine for the crew chief (Bob Osbourne) for the #99 Office Depot team, but they also took back the 10 bonus points Carl Edwards had obtained for the seeding of the Chase.

Roush Fenway Racing President Geoff Smith commented from Vail, Colorado that RFR would be getting their ducks in a row over the next week to decide whether or not to appeal the penalty.

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Filed Under: Carl Edwards, Daytona, Drivers, Las Vegas, Nascar, Robby Gordon, Robby Gordon Motorsports #7, Roush Racing #99, Sprint Cup, Teams, Tracks

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By Luke, Thunder Lounge
Monday March 3, 2008
12:52am CST
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Well, it was almost like deja vu as Carl Edwards led the last lap for the second week in a row.

After much impending anticipation, the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series made it to Las Vegas. After the fiasco in Fontana last week, it was definitely a welcomed weekend where weather wasn’t an issue, and the racing was anticipated to be really good.

It wasn’t bad, however as a colleague pointed out, I was left with a slight empty feeling. To me it felt like the guys we’re leaving something on the table, for lack of a better term. I reflect back to comments about the tires, a lack of overall grip, and the term cautiously aggressive comes to mind.

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Filed Under: Carl Edwards, Drivers, Hendrick Motorsports #24, Jeff Gordon, Joe Gibbs Racing #20, Las Vegas, Nascar, Roush Racing #99, Sprint Cup, Teams, Tony Stewart, Tracks

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By Luke, Thunder Lounge
Monday February 25, 2008
3:11pm CST
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About flippin time is right.

About flippin time someone won out in California.

About flippin timethe weather took a back seat to racing.

About time for a lot of things, but I’ll cut it at this. About time the racing was worth watching at this southern California track.

It wasn’t a perfect show, and yeah there is room for improvement. Isn’t there always, though?

However, love or hate this car, we saw again that it’s racy. It’s nice to see these cars around each other for lengths of time without one driver or another losing it. All seeping water aside.

One thing prevalent in this race, of many, is that this is the house of Roush. What looked last night to be the Gordon Show, turned a tick to Johnsonville, but the Roushketeers didn’t flinch. Had the race continued last night the outcome would be anyone’s guess. But it didn’t, so end of that story.

Another lesson here is that Roush has their act together with the car now, and they’re getting better. Further still, is that Hendrick is still as strong as ever. While taking home half the trophies this season seems out of the question, as the competition is much stiffer this season thus far, you can bet they’ll take home a fair share before the season is over.

Now it’s on to the Nationwide race, where a historic moment has a chance to take place. That moment being that for the first time, a driver could leave the weekend behind and sit atop all 3 Series points. Trucks, Nationwide, and Sprint Cup. That driver is Kyle Busch.

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Filed Under: California, Carl Edwards, Drivers, Nascar, Roush Racing #99, Sprint Cup, Teams, Tracks

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By Luke, Thunder Lounge
Monday February 25, 2008
12:48am CST
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So it’s approaching 1:30am in Charlotte. Does anyone care at this point, aside from the minimal few diehard fans still up, and those still at the track?

Let’s be honest here. Anyone that was watching, went to bed quite a while ago. Those on the west coast are just now turning in, recently turned in, or are heading that way soon. The majority gave up long ago.

As we tick off the 4th hour of the red flag delay, and enter into the 5th, how much is too much? Does anyone at this point really care anymore tonight?

The drivers have been on again, off again for half a day, and the level of fatigue (from mostly sheer boredom) has to be setting in. At this point, I would have to ask the question, “Is this safe?”

There is one thing to be sure of at this point. They’d damn well better go racing after all of this, and it better make the distance.

On a more serious note, Casey Mears is quite alright after one heck of an accident. Thank you H2O.

Casey hit one of the weepers, creepers, or whatever you want to call it, and lost his car up the track. He almost had it saved, then hit the marbles and junk up by the wall. Thus causing a chat with said wall, a spin back across the track, a brief conversation with Dale Jr., before coming to rest along the outside wall. Oops! Just a second here, Sam Hornish Jr. has something to add to the conversation here. Wrinkled hood and all, neither saw it coming. Hornish couldn’t stop, see, or steer by that point, and he lifted Casey’s back end up in the air, rolling his car over a time and a half to finally come to rest on the passenger side.

Both drivers we unharmed, out of their cars under their own power, treated and released from the infield care center. Heck, Casey’s probably crawling into bed in Charlotte by now. At least close to it.

Now hurry the hell up, and let’s race.

Update:

Nope. I guess nobody cares. Even NASCAR. After keeping what few were left hanging on their seats, they call it a day at 2am EST.

Gee, thanks.

Back at it at 1pm EST tomorrow I guess.

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Filed Under: California, Casey Mears, Drivers, Hendrick Motorsports #5, Nascar, Sprint Cup, Teams, Tracks

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By Luke, Thunder Lounge
Thursday February 21, 2008
9:39pm CST
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Just when you thought things were looking up at Michael Waltrip Racing, one of the biggest blows to their fortune comes via a new regulations at UPS.

As you all are most certainly aware, the prices of fuel have increased dramatically. This trickles down to even the lowest cost denominator. Those tomatoes have to get to your local grocery somehow, right?

While less serious than a case of mesothelioma, or needing a DUI attorney, the car insurance quotes for the #44 UPS Toyota Camry just may be going up.

Think I’m losing it? Been hanging around Marc a bit much? Nope, not a tin foil hat in this post.
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