NASCAR got points swap wrong: Reutimann out on a limb
Friday, March 28th, 2008 3:31pm CDT
By Luke, Thunder Lounge
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The sky is falling. NASCAR hates Toyota. Whatever you want to build into a conspiracy. I won’t, but feel free to have at it.
It’s now official, the bullshit flag now raised. The following decision by NASCAR stinks to high heaven.
NASCAR has denied the request of Michael Waltrip Racing to switch Owners Points from the #00 Dream Machine to the #44 UPS Toyota Camry.
Why would MWR want to do that anyway? If you don’t know by now, David Reutimann has taken over the wheel of the #44 effective at the conclusion of Bristol two weeks ago. He replaces Dale Jarrett, who now enters “retirement” and moves into the broadcast booth for ESPN. DJ will run the All-Star race in May as his final event.
This being the case, David Reutimann had earned a 27th spot thus far in the 2008 Owners Points, while Dale Jarrett was 34th. With rookie Michael McDowell taking over the #00, Michael Waltrip Racing wanted to allow David to keep what he had earned for Owners Points thus far this season, giving the rookie McDowell the left overs.
Honestly, that makes more sense then being handed points on a silver platter. I shall now cough while saying a name who has manipulated the Owners Points recently.
David Reutimann earned his points for the Owners Standings, and allowing him to keep them would be the right thing to do. However, NASCAR’s Sprint Cup Series Director, John Darby, says that, “point swaps typically are granted only when there is a change in a business function or when an owner is trying to reorganize during the offseason.”
Or if you want to manipulate the system to get a driver into the points to make a race, should be added to that statement.
So you can take points from your top car and give it to the new guy, but you can’t allow for a driver who earned his way to keep them when a number change is initiated within the organization.
The one time where a point swap within the same organization makes sense, and isn’t abusing the system, and NASCAR gets it wrong.
It wouldn’t matter who it is. Under these circumstances a points swap is not only logical, but honorable. However, it seems that honor isn’t something on NASCAR’s mind with this decision.
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Filed Under: David Reutimann, Drivers, Martinsville, Michael Waltrip Racing #00, Michael Waltrip Racing #44, Nascar, Sprint Cup, Teams, Tracks
Tagged As: David Reutimann, Michael McDowell, Michael Waltrip Racing, MWR, Top-35, UPS
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By Luke, Thunder Lounge
Wednesday March 19, 2008
12:21pm CDT
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This is the question that has went unasked thus far in 2008. It’s time, past time actually, to ask it.
Currently, the best Rookie in the Owners Points is Sam Hornish Jr. He currently sits in 35th for 2008, as we head into race #6 where this years points take effect. Next up is Martinsville, and there are guys behind him with a lot more experience at this track. Considering the finesse it takes, this track has a habit of kicking Rookies to the curb. The odds of Hornish Jr. overcoming this are ones I wouldn’t take in any bookie joint in the land.
Behind Sam Hornish Jr. comes the rest of the 2008 Raybestos Rookie of the Year candidates.
Dario Franchitti is in 38th, just 37 points back, with Regan Smith nipping at his heels and just 2 points behind him in 39th.
Then we have Patrick Carpentier bringing up the rear, 186 points out of 35th (46th overall) and just 2 starts out of 5 possible this season. Stick a fork in their Top-35 efforts. They’re done.
What begs to be asked is that whether or not the Top-35 will be the deciding factor in the Raybestos Rookie of the Year winner for 2008. I’ll bet it does. It already has.
For those who are unfamiliar with how this all works out, here’s the description from the NASCAR.com Rookie Standings Page:
“Raybestos Rookie of the Year candidates earn points based on their best 17 finishes of the season. Points are earned through entry points, competition points based on finish, top 10 bonus points, bonus points based on three segments of the season and a panel of voters at the completion of the season.”
| Rank | Car # | Driver | Distance From 35th |
|---|---|---|---|
| 35th | #77 | Sam Hornish Jr. | 0 |
| 38th | #40 | Dario Franchitti | Behind 37pts |
| 39th | #01 | Regan Smith | Behind 39pts |
| 46th | #10 | Patrick Carpentier | Back 186pts |
You will notice that it says “their best 17 finishes of the season“.
If driver A makes 30 races, and the next driver makes 20 races, didn’t driver A just get a 10 race advantage by having the opportunity to have more races to select their best 17 finishes from?
Sam Hornish Jr. is in 35th right now. What’s also not taken into consideration is that at least for a race or two, quite possibly more, Michael McDowell will be in the #00 for Michael Waltrip Racing when David Reutimann takes over the #44 at Martinsville.
Not that it’s likely, but the possibility (however slim) is there that just by him keeping it in the Top-35 he could literally run away with the Rookie of the Year, and missing the first 5 races of the year. Then again, it could be Hornish that does the same. Based solely on nothing more than having had 17 races to choose from, when other drivers may have much less.
While those races are not the only factor, they make up most of it. That being the case, the better the odds and the more races you have under your belt, the better you’re going to come out in the wash.
Now the question is, is this a fair way to judge the performance of the rookie class? Sure, you have to make a race to compete, which is part of the whole process. However, if someone makes just 12, but runs really well (better than someone barely keeping it in the Top-35) then how does that play out?
What we have here is yet another fiasco waiting to happen, and it’s on the verge of exploding. Nothing against Sam Hornish Jr., or any other rookie for that matter, however there is room for improvement in the overall system.
I don’t know what the answer is, honestly. There are so many possibilities, and none that can be implemented mid-stream in the season.
Should you go back to a 2 day qualifying session with provisionals? Maybe lock in the Top-20 as well?
How about increase the field? Where did 42 plus one past champion, to make 43 spots come from anyway? Why not add a couple starting spots, and make it an even 46, 48, or even 50? Surely there is enough room for everyone. OK, Martinsville and Bristol might be a tick on the tight side, but it can be done.
Right now, there are enough teams that are trying to run full time that opening even 3 more spots would help. There wouldn’t be a worry of “field fillers”, although some at the very back of the Top-50 in points now could be considered flirting with that concept. However, that’s not by lack of effort, it’s from a lack of funding, brought on by the whole Top-35 deal.
I have no answer to the problem, but there has to be a solution that works out for everyone involved. Whether that’s more spots, less lock-in’s, provisionals, or whatever the case may be.
One thing I do know, however, is that Saturday’s at Richmond (and Bristol) sure are boring when there isn’t a thing going on at the track before the sun goes down, the lights come up, and the show begins.
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Filed Under: Chip Ganassi Racing #40, Dale Earnhardt Inc #01, Dario Franchitti, Drivers, Evernham Motorsports #10, Martinsville, Nascar, Regan Smith, Sprint Cup, Teams, Tracks
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By Luke, Thunder Lounge
Wednesday October 17, 2007
7:28am CDT
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New Driver At Roush?
Ricky Stenhouse of Olive Branch, MS has been drafted into training to become a Roushketeer. Ricky is currently racing USAC (National Sprints and Midgets) for Tony Stewart, and will move into ARCA in 2008 for Roush according to the Roush Fenway PR.
Um, WTF? Doesn’t look to be much room at the top, especially when one considers that Roush has to “get rid” of a car in a little over a year. Needless to say, their current program looks pretty much full, but here comes another one. Something smell a little fishy here? I wouldn’t say fishy, Charlie Tuna, but Roush knows where the sandbox is to play in. Let’s not forget that he plans to move a team over to Yates Racing when the time comes. However, we still wonder what’s going on with this.
Which brings us to a similar topic…
3M Primary Sponsor For Biffle In 2008, Multi-year Deal
3M has worked out a multi-year deal to be the primary sponsor of the #16 and Greg Biffle as per the Roush Fenway PR. While Biffle has not re-signed with Roush, his contract currently expires after the 2008 season, he did say he’s pretty likely (like 80% or so) to resign with Roush. Well, who’s going to be going then? Unless something drastic happens with the Biffle negotiations, the only choice Roush has is Regan. Nice kid, but if Biffle resigns, and you know Kenseth and Edwards aren’t going anywhere, and Jamie fits in there very, very, well too, the kids going to Yates. Which might not be a bad thing, as at least he’ll still have a job.
Either way, Jack’s making all these deals like he’s got more cars than a Mark Martin Ford dealership. Something else is going on that we don’t know. Has to be. So WTF?
Lights at Martinsville Would Be Bad?
Clay Campbell questions the addition of lights for Martinsville Speedway in a Virginian Pilot interview. his big concern is that is can get a little chilly at night in late March/early April, as well as in October. However, it may help out with some of the other things (modifieds and late models), and they have rigged temporary lighting in the past. However, the big deal is that those take up so much room.
Lights wouldn’t make sense? WTF? Just because you have them, doesn’t mean NASCAR would make it a night race. Although, I will admit, it would be really, really cool. The big benefit of it, Mr. Campbell, would be if a race goes late and there is a need for additional light. See: Kansas, 2007 for a prime example. I’ll also cite October, 2001, where it rained enough to keep the race from running on Sunday, but with lights it could have went off without a hitch. (I ate too many hot dogs that day.)
And now, our final WTF of the week…
Michael Waltrip Attributes Recent Improvement To Gibbs
Ruh Roh! Should you have told ESPN that, Mikey?
Yes, indeed, Joe Gibbs has been doing their homework on their new manufacturer for 2008. To be honest, if you didn’t think they were, you need far more help than I can give you. However, did anyone think that information would be disseminated to their new brethren before Homestead? Let me see here. We’ve got 2 drivers in the Chase, so let’s tick off our current manufacturer even more by sharing information with our new friends. Wow. Never would have thought it would be a reality.
Sharing information with the parent company about their own brand, OK, I can buy that. However, that information being disseminated and helping them better themselves now, against their current manufacturer Chevrolet? Inconceivable. Preposterous! Yet, it’s true.
WTF???
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By Luke, Thunder Lounge
Monday April 2, 2007
11:25am CDT
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Perhaps I’m the only one to notice this, maybe not. However after an impressive show of wheelmanship yesterday at Martinsville, and holding off 4-time Cup Champion (boss, and teammate) Jeff Gordon while he has his fist solid on the chrome horn, it was apparent as he stepped out of the car. The “Boos” flew, as Johnson racked up yet another win this season.
OK, he’s been getting the boo’s for a while. Anyone care to remember back at Indy last August? When Johnson had won, and accidentally dropped the flag on his victory lap? He got out of the car, picked it up, and as he was heading back to the car almost got hit from behind by a chucked beer can. And not an empty one at that, as it sprayed over the track when it came crashing down. Bet you didn’t read about that anywhere, did you? Think I’m kidding? Find a replay of that race and you’ll see I’m not.
Something that I find ironic in this situation is that Sunday during driver interviews Jimmie’s “boss”, Mr. Gordon, wasn’t the recipient near to the extent of even a season or so ago. It’s been a slowly progressing trend, one that is difficult to gage from week to week, and one that needs to be looked at over time.
Are we seeing a changing of the guard here folks? Is Jimmie the new “man to hate”? That would seem to be the case, yes indeed.
So the question that comes to my mind is why? Why were people so pissed off last July at Chicago when Gordon accidentally got into Kenseth, yet are now pissed off that Gordon didn’t dump Johnson to win Martinsville? I just don’t get it.
So back to my question of “why”? What has Jimmie done to earn the negative attention? OK, he drives for Hendrick Motorsports and some fans believe that NASCAR has this big conspiracy going in favor of Hendrick (and Dale Junior, Roush, or anyone that is successful so it seems). OK, Jimmie is the reining series Champion. Yet even Kurt Busch didn’t receive this much attention. So what gives?
Here’s how I see it, plain and simple. He’s a winner, and he’s supposed to be. He’s in top equipment, with a top team, in the stable of a top owner, and driving the top make in the series. He’s supposed to be good. It’s expected. And apparently, being good when you’re supposed to be is the credentials for you getting the boos as he and Gordon have. I guess people just don’t like winners that are supposed to be winners. They like the guys who aren’t necessarily supposed to be the top dog, yet become the top dog. Or so it seems. A shame, really. Hell, people used to boo Dale Earnhardt too. Yet we forget that now when he’s not here.
And on that note I’ll leave it in the hands of Mr. Earnhardt, who once said that if it’s cheers or boos, as long as the fans are making noise you don’t have anything to worry about. When the stands are silent, then you can worry.
I’m paraphrasing, but that’s the words of wisdom he passed along.
Sometimes, people just don’t like a winner.
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